"mazda616" (mazda616)
09/07/2019 at 19:39 • Filed to: Subaru Ascent
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"mazda616" (mazda616)
09/07/2019 at 19:39 • Filed to: Subaru Ascent | 7
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My wife didn’t want anything GM, nor did she want the Ford Explorer. She wasn’t enthused about the Pilot or the Highlander, either. Let’s clear that up to start with. And yes, we researched the shit out of all of them.
We drove the Palisade. Sat in a Telluride. Both felt...cheap. The door handles on the Palisade were wobbly enough that even my wife noticed when she went to open the door. The touch screen moved when we touched it - not purposely. XM radio wasn’t even offered on the model we drove. And, the upholstery on the door panel was torn. This on a 2020 with 15 miles. And at a higher price point than the Subaru.
The Palisade and the Telluride both had the wide center console that intruded on seat room, which my wife hates. The CX-9 did, too.
The Ascent felt the most solid. And smooth. It was beyond comfortable and easy to drive. It drives like a big car - which I like. I’m quickly becoming a Subaru fan.
All the safety gizmos are nice. Subaru “EyeSight” is crazy cool. And the lane keep assist works well without being intrusive. We tried it and it politely steered us back into our lane on a side road close to the dealer.
Apple CarPlay is sweet and so is Subaru StarLink (remote unlocking/locking and remote start with your phone). Overall, I’m pretty satisfied with the level of tech it offers. The only things this one is missing, being a Limited instead of a (top-of-the-line) Touring are a sunroof and cooled/ventilated seats.
The CVT isn’t as bothersome as some Nissan units I’ve tried. It simulates an 8-speed automatic and has a “manual” mode. Plenty of power from the little Boxer four-cylinder. The engine itself is interesting to me, especially with its top-mounted oil filter.
It does 0-60 in less than 7 seconds... which means it’s faster than my 6.
If you don’t like it, well, that’s fine. No need to chastise me over buying a crossover for my wife instead of a manual WRX.
I’m cautiously excited to enter the word of Subaru ownership.
The dealer offers a lifetime powertrain warranty as long as I have my service done there. They surprisingly have good customer service ratings, too. The downside is that they’re about 35 - 40 minutes from my house. Hopefully, we won’t have to be there often.
We are calling around to some banks on a Monday to get the best loan rate. They’re holding it for us until then.
Have some photos:
CB
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:25 |
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Congrats (well, close enough to it)! That colour combo is deluxe.
09GT - now boosted
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:29 |
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Congrats! My in-laws have an Outback with that exact color combo and it’s pretty sharp. I have my eye on it as a used car when my kids start driving in a few years.
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mazda616
> 09GT - now boosted
09/07/2019 at 20:31 |
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Honestly, I was VERY impressed with the car and its dealer. Our salesperson didn’t work on commission, and she (yes, she) knew the answer to every off-the-wall question I asked.
I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:31 |
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Congrats!
I was going to say keep in mind that the motor isn’t very big a nd is hauling a LOT of car around and to be prepared for the whole thing to go tits up around 80k, but if it’s lifetime warrantied at the dealership, I would not be concerned.
I hope you enjoy it for years to come!
Under_Score
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:33 |
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Nice! My sister and I looked at a redesigned Forester, and price and availability were the only things holding her back. Otherwise, excellent car. A couple observations, though.
1. Why get rid of the CX-5 now? When I tell people I may get rid of my RAV4 in the next couple years (2012 with 90,000 miles), they think I’m crazy! I know the family may grow, but I didn’t think anything was wrong with the CX-5.
2. I’m shocked the Limited doesn’t come standard with a sunroof. Subaru loves making sunroofs standard even on their lower trims.
Also, something I meant to ask. Are there surround view cameras?
WilliamsSW
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:34 |
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No hate from me, I’ll be in a similar boat when my wife’s lease is up.
Having 2 small children presents a lot of challenges, car wise. My wife wants 3 rows because reasons next time, but doesn’t want anything too big. Or American. Or cheap.
I’m doomed, but the Subie seems like a great choice. Enjoy!
Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:39 |
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Congrats on the soon to be yours brown lifted wagony thing, even if it doesn’t have a manual.
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mazda616
> Phyrxes once again has a wagon!
09/07/2019 at 20:41 |
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Thanks! It has a...manual mode. (Lol.)
SaabStutz
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:42 |
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What an awesome brown!
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mazda616
> Under_Score
09/07/2019 at 20:43 |
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I pushed the argument to keep the CX-5 a while longer and I lost.
We’re paying off my 6 now, so we can comfortably manage the Ascent payment.
Dusty Ventures
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:47 |
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Top mount oil filters are the greatest thing ever
Eric @ opposite-lock.com
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:49 |
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Doesn’t have three pedals, not a manual.
zipfuel
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:50 |
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Its a brown AWD wagon with a top mount intercooler, we the knights of Oppo stand ready to defend your honor from any haterz
Now I’m looking at that intercooler and wondering if someone could make a kit to change that duct from the grille setup to a classic WRX style hood scoop...
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Under_Score
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 20:53 |
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When I was 3, my mom got her MPV. After 5.5 years, my parents realized the only person that used the third row was the dog. They never drove other people around, either, so they traded it in on a Rogue.
Then, the Rogue was in the family for over a decade. The longest my parents ever had a car. Its unfortunate death led to the car searching scenario mentioned in my original comment.
Boxer_4
> Dusty Ventures
09/07/2019 at 20:55 |
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As someone with an EJ253, I concur!
Picture stolen from the web.
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Dusty Ventures
> Boxer_4
09/07/2019 at 20:59 |
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Gotta love the ring of fire
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mazda616
> Eric @ opposite-lock.com
09/07/2019 at 21:00 |
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Hence the “Lol” after my post.
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Boxer_4
> Dusty Ventures
09/07/2019 at 21:05 |
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One time I got distracted and left it idle too long... that was an unpleasant experience!
DipodomysDeserti
> Dusty Ventures
09/07/2019 at 21:11 |
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You can tell when someone has owned an EJ25 engine. Wonder if they unfucked the spark plug location on the new engines.
gettingoldercarguy
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 21:17 |
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Lifetime powertrain? Sold.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Under_Score
09/07/2019 at 21:19 |
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A lot of people don’t want the sunroof because the top of the car is used to carry kayaks, camping gear, bikes , snowboards, Christmas trees, etc. The sunroof is a pain to worry about.
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mazda616
> gettingoldercarguy
09/07/2019 at 21:28 |
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The way they explained it was: $100 deductible and any repair is covered. I plan to press them further on it.
glak
> Boxer_4
09/07/2019 at 21:30 |
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Same here. Not a problem if the rear climate control is turned off, though.
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gettingoldercarguy
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 21:31 |
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Yeah, in writing is great. Does that cover Walnut blasting the intake valves? The oil they use influences that.
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Under_Score
> gettingoldercarguy
09/07/2019 at 21:36 |
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It’s standard on the Forester unless you get the most base trim, though. It’s been that way for years.
CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 21:36 |
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Psh, could have easily bought a 1986 rolls Royce
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gettingoldercarguy
> Under_Score
09/07/2019 at 21:38 |
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Ok, my wife didn’t want a sunroof on her outback and a lot of customers didn’t/don't.
Chariotoflove
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 21:40 |
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Well congrats. It’s always a victory when a couple finds something both feel good about.
When Mama’s happy, everybody’s happy.
merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> gettingoldercarguy
09/07/2019 at 21:42 |
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Are they DI engines? How often is that needed?
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Under_Score
> gettingoldercarguy
09/07/2019 at 21:43 |
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Interesting. For my mom, a sunroof has always been a major want. My sister wanted one when she was car shopping, too. She didn’t care about ProPilot and all that, but because she wanted that sunroof, she got all that.
Now that she has them, those cameras are pretty awesome.
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> Dusty Ventures
09/07/2019 at 21:46 |
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How does that even work? Seems like a shit design that could’ve been easily replaced with a cartridge top loader. Makes about as much sense as the Toyota filter on the front of the engine parallel to the ground. Insuring you make a huge mess trying to get it out.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Under_Score
09/07/2019 at 21:46 |
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T he more outdoorsy people I know don't have/want them on their cars either. I dunno.
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gettingoldercarguy
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
09/07/2019 at 21:48 |
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Not too frequently to truly need it, I think 4 0-60k is what I've seen. Your dealer would know better with the 2.4.
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Under_Score
> gettingoldercarguy
09/07/2019 at 21:50 |
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That’s even more different than my sister haha. While she loved the Forester, she thought it was weird that they kept promoting it as a car that carries kayaks, goes on trails, etc. When my sister isn’t working, she’s looking at astrology memes or making comics or something. She doesn’t go outside much. Her Rogue is FWD.
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> WilliamsSW
09/07/2019 at 21:50 |
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We loved our Q7 till we had our 3rd, then it got snug, but we made that work too, but number 4 kicked us square into minivan ownership. Love it. But loved the Q7 too. They get cheap once their out of warranty. Ours was a trooper for the 70k plus miles we put on it before it was replaced by the Pacifica.
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> gettingoldercarguy
09/07/2019 at 21:54 |
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Do that’s the same boat I’m in with my S8s DI v10. I did it at 55k and had to give it a bit of refresh 20k later, but just used the DI induction cleaners. Did the trick. But may pull the intake at 100k to see how it all looks in there. So is that a DI engine?
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WilliamsSW
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
09/07/2019 at 21:55 |
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We will not be having a 3rd. So I think the 3rd row is silly. But whatever as long as I don’t have to daily it.
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> WilliamsSW
09/07/2019 at 22:00 |
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Yeah, then you can get by with a lot of cars. But whatever makes Momma happy is key.
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gettingoldercarguy
> Under_Score
09/07/2019 at 22:05 |
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Yeah, check out the outback onyx vs the limited . That really hits home with what they’re doing. No standard sunroof, but has a more weather resistant fabric. Plus they're a pain to open with kayaks on top.
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gettingoldercarguy
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
09/07/2019 at 22:09 |
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Yep, unless they have port injection and direct injection.
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WilliamsSW
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
09/07/2019 at 22:17 |
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She complains that my E class is too small. It’s ridiculous
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Boxer_4
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
09/07/2019 at 22:24 |
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The filter sits on a tray. Typically I will unscrew the filter so it unseals and drains, the will remove it the rest of the way. The small amount of mess that occurs is contained without issue. I’ve never had a problem with it the few times I’ve given a friend a hand with an oil change.
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Eric @ opposite-lock.com
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 23:00 |
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Should have just quoted it as “manual mode”.
Seriously, though, congratulations on settling on a new hingeyvan for your wife. I hope mine likes one of these, because it ticks all the boxes she has, it’s very reasonably priced for what you get, and I’d expect it to be reliable for an extended period. But I’ll be pushing for the Touring, because whatever we get that we use for road trips needs to be freaky comfortable.
Gabe
> mazda616
09/07/2019 at 23:28 |
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My sympathies on your loss of over 41k.
Kyrgyz Nomad
> Boxer_4
09/07/2019 at 23:41 |
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The early Subarus are a pain. Especially when you're client shows up for an overdue oil change after a long drive and the oil filter is seized.
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Kyrgyz Nomad
> Dusty Ventures
09/07/2019 at 23:43 |
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2018 Jeep Wrangler JK 3.6 has a cartridge style filter (just a plastic cap with a separate element) that’s even easier and cleaner. No leakage whatso ever.
M.T. Blake
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 00:13 |
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4Runner?! No?
coqui70
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 00:41 |
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Check for sunroof leaks if you end up getting one with it.
Morbis
> M.T. Blake
09/08/2019 at 01:38 |
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4runners look great. They really do. But they’re total trash if you mostly use them for on- road kid duty.
They have small interiors (body on frame), uncomfortable seating position, crappy gas mileage, crappy handling.
They are *the* SUV to own if you’re going off-road, otherwise there are better options.
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Morbis
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 01:43 |
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I'll be in the market for a similar vehicle in the next year or two. Really bummed on your take on the Palisade/Telluride. I was hoping that one of those was going to be the ticket.
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Dusty Ventures
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
09/08/2019 at 01:52 |
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Thought you were replying to a different comment than you were. Check out Boxer_4's comment for the top mount filter. It’s super easy and I’ve never had an errant drop go anywhere during a change.
Floof
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 03:28 |
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Just make sure you ge t every scheduled maintenance done before you hit the mileage for it. Usually dealers that offer the lifetime warranty like that will have the stipulation that voids it if you miss a single factory scheduled service. As long as you’re on top of that it’s a great deal though.
Nice car, love the color!
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8888
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 03:46 |
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Nothing says I’ve given up on style like a Subaru!! Great solid and well built cars that has been their reputation forever, but for the love of God hire some designers and actually make a car or a crossover that someone might actually like the way it looks. They’re practical much like a pocket protector is but hell who the hell wants to be that practical!! Give me something that resembles exciting, fun and cool.
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Brandocav
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 05:16 |
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Made the right choice homie, I bought a the “premium” trim last summer and it’s the best decision we ever made. Same color too. Subaru made life long life fan out me n wifey.
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Brandocav
> gettingoldercarguy
09/08/2019 at 05:17 |
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Shut and ride boy
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M.T. Blake
> Morbis
09/08/2019 at 09:55 |
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You forgot excellent resale value.
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mazda616
> Morbis
09/08/2019 at 10:20 |
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The Telluride might be different. We didn’t actually get to drive it. The dealer didn’t have any in stock, so we got to sit in one that belonged to a salesman.
The Palisade was very underwhelming after having driven the Subaru. :(
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mazda616
> WilliamsSW
09/08/2019 at 10:23 |
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Yeah. We have a two-year-old and will have one more in the future (more than likely). But, my wife’s little sister is 11 and she goes virtually everywhere with us. Add in my wife’s friend, who has some mobility issues, and her five-year-old son, and the CX-5 does admittedly get tight. If they all load up in it, it looks similar to clowns in a clown car when they all get out.
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mazda616
> Eric @ opposite-lock.com
09/08/2019 at 10:24 |
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I’m a bit nervous about owning a turbocharged engine, but it has a good warranty and roadside assistance, just in case. And Subarus do have good reliability ratings.
HammerheadFistpunch
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 10:37 |
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may the transmission, oil consumption and turbo gods smile upon you and yours
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Sebrof14
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 10:42 |
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I’ve had this car (same color even) since late April. Absolutely love it. The only difference is I upgraded to the full moonroof package-so it’s basiclaly a Touring without the Napa leather ventilated seats. Knowing the amount of liquids that my two kids will spill , I was ok going with the faux leather seats instead. The moonroof is a game changer though, love that feature.
I upgraded from a Mazda CX-5 (see: two kids now)-I loved how the Mazda drove and the Ascent was the only big SUV I found that had anything close to that sporty feel, while still feeling like you’re driving a big car. All the tech features are great as well-I looked at the Atlas, Telluride, Expedition and a few other big cars and the Ascent was hands down the best drive. Couldn’t be happier with my choice.
deephouse
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 10:50 |
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So boring looking car, seriously lacking characters. Subaru design language seems still stuck in the 90's
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mazda616
> deephouse
09/08/2019 at 10:52 |
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I’m stuck in the ‘90s, too. I own a Pontiac Sunbird for God’s sake.
John D
> deephouse
09/08/2019 at 10:58 |
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Sometimes you sacrifice style to gain handling and performance. Plus the Subaru has one of the highest resale values. I have a 17 WRX and I'm not thrilled with the design of the vehicle. Add some aesthetic mods and it's not half bad. Honestly I don't really care that the design isn't that great. How the car drives and handles is what I care about most. It more than makes up for it. This is how this reality works... You can't have everything. I like the cx9 design for the most part, but ultimately they do not hold their value.
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WilliamsSW
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 11:58 |
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Ok, yeah, if you have to haul that whole crew at times, 3 rows definitely makes sense.
In my case, my wife wants to sit in back * with* the kids, and that’s her reason for wanting a 3rd row.
Frankly, I think that urge will vanish once out daughter is forward facing in about 2-2.5 years. Our son will be 5-6 then, and my car will be just fine.
dogisbadob
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 13:01 |
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oooo brown
LJ909
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 13:40 |
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Make sure you guys check for any recalls. The Ascent has had some problems. Broken control arms and some engine related issues are two I’ve encountered with some owners.
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SafferAtAll
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 13:57 |
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Was with you until the brown. To each his own, of course. The blue with the dark brown leather is very nice.
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Seanathan
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 13:59 |
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We are in the process of buying a new car, and coming from a 2015 Forester xt we really like the Ascent, test drove it, enjoyed it, basically the same model as you, just a different color variation. Loved the rear air, but realized we don't need anything that big. sadly they don't offer a turbo in the Forester anymore, so looks like we will be going with a Lexus, Congrats on the soon to be new car.
Nothing
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 14:42 |
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Congrats. The Ascent in this combo seemed predetermined, which is a ok. If you like it, you like it! When I test drove cars last year, I nitpicked on everything on every other vehicle, but not the 4Runner. I gave it a try, but in the end, just got what I knew I wanted instead of trying to like something else.
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LoveMyTelluride
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 15:05 |
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I have a Telluride and I absolutely love it. It is so well-e ngi neered, they have thought of mostly everything. I couldn’t disagree more with this author in saying it feels “cheap” as I feel that couldn’t be further from the truth. I did not test drive a Ascent, but cannot say enough great things about the Telluride. My wife has a CX-5, and the CX-9 design seemed too similar and reviews were not great. Palisade wasn't out yet when I bought in March.
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mazda616
> LoveMyTelluride
09/08/2019 at 16:54 |
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The Telluride felt and looked better to us than the Palisade, but we just ended up liking the Ascent best. Different strokes for different folks.
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mazda616
> Nothing
09/08/2019 at 16:55 |
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On paper, it seemed the best bet. And it turned out that way in reality, too. Which surprised me.
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mazda616
> SafferAtAll
09/08/2019 at 16:56 |
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My wife adores the brown color. I’m less enthused about it, but she deserves what she wants. I got pretty much exactly what I wanted when I got my car, so it’s only fair.
jvirgs drives a Subaru
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 16:57 |
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Nice choice! I’ve been happy with my Outback purchase and I’m sure you will enjoy the Ascent!
PyramidHat
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 17:48 |
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There’s a button to disable EyeSight...learn how to find it in the dark. I and my Outback were trapped in a car wash once after I first bought it....went to drive out and the blower thing lowered down...EyeSight thought it was an obstacle, applied the brakes and killed the throttle. Admittedly, I was amused with a sort of “and what the fuck do I do now?” a ttitude...
Also, I upgraded to Hella Supertones as the stock horn was weak...
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PyramidHat
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 17:51 |
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Also, what did the wife dislike about them Highlander? Something specific? Or more a general “it’s not bad, but just not for me” feeling?
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wafflesnfalafel
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 18:16 |
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congrats - nice rig. My wife loves her Crosstrek and I’m sure yours will love that Ascent. You are going to have to bodge together a real hood scoop for that intercooler as a first mod :) (I was wondering how the airflow was routed - looks like the top slot of the grill feeds the intercooler - neat way to incorporate it.) I’m still torn on the eyesight thing - it works great, but it bugs the dickens out of me. Maybe I need to step into the current century...
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> Dusty Ventures
09/08/2019 at 18:36 |
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I thought it was sarcasm, that doesn’t compute for me, I would’ve thought it would be a huge mess. So does it drain back as you pull it? Must be similar to a cartridge. Now that I think about it a bit, it makes more sense. The messy filters I’ve experienced were all side or on an angle of some sort.
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> Boxer_4
09/08/2019 at 18:38 |
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Oh, I thought it was some inside joke about how terrible the mess is with the filters, but yeah it makes sense now.
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merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
> WilliamsSW
09/08/2019 at 18:40 |
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Well is no S class ;). I know the back seats of my S4 got real snug for kid transport duties.
Teflon
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 18:55 |
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Did you check out the vovlo xc90? We bought one bc we thought the ascent felt cheap.
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NormGTO
> Dusty Ventures
09/08/2019 at 20:02 |
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The filter should collect metal fragments from the 2.4l engine goes as some Ascent owners has seen on the forums.
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NormGTO
> zipfuel
09/08/2019 at 20:05 |
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Bearded knights too!
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NormGTO
> HammerheadFistpunch
09/08/2019 at 20:07 |
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Though he’ll pay through the noise for dealership maintence that 200K warranty will be pre-paid, whether he uses it or not.
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SunnyB
> mazda616
09/08/2019 at 20:40 |
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Hey. I’m an Ascent owner. Had two Subaru’s before this one. I Purchased in Feb and am already getting a transmission replacement before it even hits 10k miles. I discovered I’m not the only one. Just as a heads up check out all of the issues folks are having here https://www.ascentforums.com/threads/list-your-transmission-problem.5715/
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Dusty Ventures
> merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
09/08/2019 at 22:13 |
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Because the filter is at the top pointed down oil doesn’t collect in it when the motor isn’t running, it drains out the moment the pump turns off. The metal dish sits in, that you can see in the picture Boxer_4 put up , is wider than the filter by a few mm all the way around and collects any last drops when you unscrew the filter.
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Morbis
> M.T. Blake
09/09/2019 at 01:16 |
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True, Resale value on 4runners is really amazing.
I don’t think that resale value makes up for all of the other shortcomings.
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Teflon
> WilliamsSW
09/09/2019 at 01:20 |
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Look into a vovlo xc90. Checks all of your boxes.
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Teflon
> Seanathan
09/09/2019 at 01:27 |
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Seems like a vovlo xc60 would fit your needs well.
Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever
> mazda616
09/09/2019 at 01:48 |
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I liked the Ascent when I was checking out cars at the Subaru dealer, minus the generic exterior styling. Since the inside is what counts, the Ascent’s interior is pretty good.
The model that really surprised me in a bad way was the Outback. The interior door pulls were super loose and would visibly distort the entire door card when pulled. Not sure if it was just that car but it was a brand new unit at the dealer.
Good luck with the numbers—I’m sure you and your wife
will be very happy with the car itself.
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Ty Pic
> deephouse
09/09/2019 at 03:00 |
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P ersonally I feel the Subaru lacks style. Inside and out. I checked most of the options out there as well. I ended up with the 8 passenger Teluride SX. It had everything I was looking for and then some, (including dual sunroofs), all wrapped in what I believe is a very modern, sharp looking vehicle. I agree the Suby looks like a 90's vehicle. I couldnt be happier with my choice. 10 years of warranty and free oil changes for life doesnt hurt either
Happy Kia O wner
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Ty Pic
> Morbis
09/09/2019 at 03:03 |
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Love my Telly!
VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely
> mazda616
09/09/2019 at 03:24 |
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TBH the Ascent looks pretty good up close! Congrats!
It’s quite handsome for the kind of thing it is.
Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> Dusty Ventures
09/09/2019 at 07:25 |
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Except the ones that don’t drain back and cause you get get oil all over the top of the engine......
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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
> mazda616
09/09/2019 at 07:30 |
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So where were the SUVs again?
I see a list of sliderless minivans.........
Fun-poking aside, glad you found something you liked. Did you get a chance to give the 3rd row a try?
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ultimum2000
> mazda616
09/09/2019 at 08:01 |
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Hey, that's my dealer! Haha, awesome
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ultimum2000
> mazda616
09/09/2019 at 08:18 |
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Hey this is my dealership!
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mazda616
> SunnyB
09/09/2019 at 09:11 |
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Yeah. Stuff like this is giving me pause. We are going to test drive a Highlander today, as well. Just to be sure there Ascent is what we really want.
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mazda616
> Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
09/09/2019 at 09:12 |
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Yeah. We both sat back there. Not too bad, honestly. I could find a comfortable position easily and so could my wife.